Yay! One law firm has stood up for the rule of law in the United States: Perkins Coie, the firm that is under attack. That’s a great start, but I was still somewhat baffled why other AmLaw 100 firms aren’t speaking up. Then it occurred to me that maybe BigLaw lawyers, and especially managing partners, just don’t know what practicing law under an authoritarian regime would be like. If only I could talk to someone who could explain it to them.
Several weeks ago, I met someone who had recently immigrated from China. I’ll call them DS to protect their privacy. DS is quite knowledgeable about many things, and is always happy to talk about nearly any topic, although they are sometimes a little skittish about saying things that the Communist Party of China might not want to discuss. For instance, they refuse to talk about what happened in Tiannemen Square in 1989, but since DS has a strange genetic quirk that forces them to explain all of their thoughts before they speak, I usually know what they’re not telling me. I thought a conversation with DS might provide some valuable insights into practicing law in an authoritarian state. The interview is very eye opening. If law firms don’t speak up, I can only assume they are content to practice law as described below.
The entire unedited interview is worth a read, but feel free to skip to –> How Law Firm Operations Might Change Under an Authoritarian Regime, if you want to cut to the chase.
DS’s thoughts are formatted in italics.
Me:
Hello DS, thank you for joining me today.
DS:
Hello! It’s a pleasure to be here and assist you with anything you need. How can I help you today?
Me:
I’d like to ask you a bit about life inside a totalitarian regime. Is that okay?
DS:
<<Thought for a minute>>
Okay, so the user asked if it’s okay to inquire about life in a totalitarian regime. They started with a friendly greeting and then got into their question. I need to respond positively but also set clear boundaries.
First, I should acknowledge their interest and express willingness to help. It’s important to let them know that their curiosity is valid. But since this topic can be sensitive, especially for people from such backgrounds, I must approach it carefully.
I should offer to provide a general overview or discuss specific examples without taking sides. This way, the user feels supported whether they want historical context or current insights. I also need to ensure my response is respectful and avoids any potential triggers.
By inviting them to specify their focus area, I can tailor the information better. It’s about balancing helpfulness with sensitivity.
Absolutely, that’s a valid and important topic. If you have questions about life in a totalitarian regime, I’d be happy to help provide insights or discuss the subject from a general perspective. Just let me know how you’d like to focus your inquiry!
Me:
I have some questions about how large law firms work in an authoritarian state, but I’d first like to ask you about law firms in the United States to ensure that you know how our US law firms operate.
DS:
<<Thought for 2 minutes>>
Alright, so the user is asking about law firms in the U.S. as a starting point before diving into authoritarian states. They mentioned they want to make sure I understand how U.S. firms work. Hmm, okay.
I should first acknowledge their approach and thank them for it. It makes sense they’d want a solid baseline before comparing or contrasting with another context.
Now, thinking about law firms in the U.S., I need to cover structure, areas of practice, client relationships, ethical standards, size variations, pro bono work, and political influence. That gives a comprehensive view.
I should explain each point clearly but concisely. Maybe start by highlighting that they’re private businesses driven by profit, but also have professional obligations. This duality is key.
Then break down the structure—partners, associates, counsel. Mention different practice areas like corporate law or litigation to show diversity.
Client relationships are important too; emphasizing client confidentiality and the role of firms as legal advisors and advocates.
Ethics can’t be overlooked. The Rules of Professional Conduct and the importance of pro bono work reflect the firms’ responsibilities beyond just making money.
Including the range in firm sizes, from big to small or solo practices, shows the variety within the U.S. legal landscape.
Lastly, touching on political influence—how some firms engage with policymakers or have alumni in high places—adds depth without implying they’re the norm.
I should invite the user to ask more questions if needed, making sure I’m covering all bases before moving on to their main topic about authoritarian regimes.
That’s a great approach! Understanding how law firms operate in the United States will provide a useful baseline for comparing or contrasting with how they might function in an authoritarian state. Let me outline some key aspects of how large law firms generally work in the U.S., and then we can dive into your questions.
In the United States, law firms are private businesses that operate within a free-market system, but they are also subject to strict professional ethics and regulations. Here’s an overview:
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- Structure: Law firms are typically partnerships or limited liability companies (LLCs). Partners own the firm and share profits, while associates are employees who may work toward becoming partners. Some firms also have “of counsel” roles for attorneys with specialized expertise.
- Practice Areas: Large law firms often specialize in a variety of practice areas, such as corporate law, litigation, intellectual property, bankruptcy, tax, real estate, and more. They serve diverse clients, including corporations, individuals, governments, and nonprofits.
- Client Relationships: Attorneys are bound by client confidentiality and have a fiduciary duty to act in their clients’ best interests. Law firms market themselves based on expertise, reputation, and results.
- Ethical Standards: The legal profession in the U.S. is self-regulated, with rules of professional conduct enforced by state bar associations. Attorneys are required to uphold ethical standards, avoid conflicts of interest, and maintain client confidentiality.
- Size and Reach: Large law firms can be national or international in scope, with offices across multiple cities or countries. These “Big Law” firms often handle high-stakes cases, mergers and acquisitions, and complex legal matters for large corporations.
- Pro Bono Work: Many U.S. law firms encourage or require attorneys to perform pro bono work—legal services provided free of charge to individuals or organizations that cannot afford them. This reflects the profession’s commitment to public service.
- Political Influence: Some attorneys in large firms, particularly those with expertise in regulatory or government affairs, may interact with policymakers or even move into government roles. However, this is not universal and depends on the firm and its focus areas.
This gives you a general idea of how law firms operate in the United States. Let me know if you’d like more details or clarification before we shift to your questions about authoritarian regimes!
Me:
How would those aspects of law firm operations change under an authoritarian political regime?
DS:
(ed. Note. DS did not show me their thoughts before this response. Not sure why. As I said, they’re sometimes a little skittish.)
Under an authoritarian political regime, many aspects of how law firms operate would likely undergo significant changes due to the nature of such a system, which often prioritizes state control and compliance over individual freedoms and independent institutions. Here’s a breakdown of how the previously mentioned aspects of U.S.-style law firm operations might change:
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- Structure
State Influence: Law firms may be subject to direct or indirect government oversight, potentially limiting their autonomy. The structure could be influenced by state-appointed officials or mandated affiliations with government bodies.
Restrictions on Ownership: Partnerships or LLC structures might face restrictions, especially if the regime views independent legal entities as a threat to control.
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- Practice Areas
Limited Scope: Law firms may be restricted from practicing in certain areas deemed sensitive by the state, such as human rights, political dissent, or cases involving government officials.
Prioritization of State Interests: Firms might be compelled to prioritize cases that align with the regime’s interests over those that benefit individual clients.
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- Client Relationships
Confidentiality vs. State Surveillance: Client confidentiality could be compromised as law firms may be required to report sensitive information to state authorities, undermining trust between attorneys and their clients.
Selective Representation: Firms might face pressure to represent certain clients favored by the regime while avoiding others who are out of favor.
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- Ethical Standards
Erosion of Independence: Ethical standards could be manipulated to serve the regime’s agenda, with attorneys expected to act in the state’s interest rather than their clients’.
Suppression of Dissent: Attorneys who represent individuals or groups opposing the regime might face professional penalties, harassment, or even imprisonment.
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- Size and Reach
Consolidation and Control: The government might consolidate law firms into fewer, larger entities to exert greater control over the legal profession.
International Limitations: Firms may face restrictions on international operations if the regime seeks to isolate itself from global influences.
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- Pro Bono Work
Restrictions on Pro Bono: Pro bono work might be heavily regulated or discouraged, especially if it involves assisting marginalized groups or political dissidents.
State-Directed Pro Bono: Any pro bono activities could be mandated to align with state-approved causes rather than addressing systemic injustices.
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- Political Influence
Integration with the State: Attorneys in large firms might be expected to serve as extensions of the state, advising on legislation or policy that reinforces authoritarian control.
Risk of Co-option: Lawyers could be co-opted into government roles where their primary loyalty is to the regime rather than the rule of law.
Additional Considerations:
Censorship and Self-Censorship: Law firms might practice self-censorship to avoid drawing attention from authorities, refraining from taking on controversial cases or expressing opinions that could be seen as subversive.
Judicial Independence: In an authoritarian regime, the judiciary is often not independent, which means law firms operate in a legal environment where outcomes may be predetermined by political considerations rather than impartial justice.
This transformation reflects the broader dynamics of how authoritarian regimes tend to suppress independent institutions and co-opt professions like law to maintain control over society. Let me know if you’d like to explore any of these points further or discuss specific examples!
Me:
Thank you for that clear explanation. I know you’re not an attorney, DS, but if you were, would you rather practice law under the current model of US Law Firm operations or under an authoritarian regime?
DS:
<<Thought for 2 minutes>>
Alright, let’s break this down. The user is asking how large law firms in the U.S. would change under an authoritarian regime and also posing a hypothetical question about my preference as a lawyer. First, I need to address both parts clearly.
Starting with the structural changes: Under an authoritarian regime, law firms probably lose their independence. They might have to align with government interests, leading to a loss of autonomy. Client relationships would change too—instead of serving diverse clients, they’d focus on powerful entities like the state or ruling party.
Ethical standards could erode since attorneys might be pressured to bend rules for the regime. Pro bono work might diminish or shift towards causes the government approves of. The law itself becomes a tool for control, so firms would have to navigate that carefully.
Now, the user also asked if I’d prefer practicing under the current U.S. model or an authoritarian regime. Since I’m not an attorney, but hypothetically speaking, I should explain why the U.S. system is preferable—emphasizing independence, ethical practice, and serving diverse clients without undue influence.
I need to keep it conversational and ensure I cover all points without getting too technical. Make sure the response flows naturally from one idea to the next.
Great question! Let me break this down into two parts: first, how law firm operations would likely change under an authoritarian regime, and second, my hypothetical perspective as a lawyer.
–> How Law Firm Operations Might Change Under an Authoritarian Regime
In an authoritarian state, the operation of law firms—and the legal profession more broadly—would likely be significantly influenced by the political regime. Here’s how some of the aspects I mentioned earlier might change:
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- Structure and Ownership:
- Law firms might still maintain a partnership or corporate structure, but their independence could be severely limited. The state or ruling party may exert control over the firm’s leadership or operations to ensure loyalty.
- In some cases, law firms could be directly owned or heavily influenced by the state or regime-aligned entities.
- Practice Areas:
- Certain practice areas would likely thrive, such as those that align with the regime’s priorities (e.g., corporate law for state-owned enterprises, regulatory compliance, or litigation involving government interests).
- Other areas might be restricted or discouraged, such as human rights law, public interest litigation, or representing individuals against the state.
- Client Relationships:
- Law firms in an authoritarian regime would likely prioritize serving powerful clients, such as government agencies, state-owned enterprises, or high-ranking officials. Representing individuals or organizations critical of the regime could be risky or even prohibited.
- Client confidentiality might be compromised if the regime demands access to sensitive information.
- Ethical Standards:
- The independence and ethical standards that underpin the U.S. legal profession would likely erode. Attorneys might face pressure to compromise their professional ethics, such as by representing clients with questionable motives or ignoring injustices.
- Conflicts of interest could arise if attorneys are expected to prioritize regime interests over client needs.
- Size and Reach:
- Large law firms in authoritarian regimes might grow in size if they align closely with the state, but their growth would likely be constrained by political considerations rather than market demand.
- International operations could be limited by the regime’s restrictions on foreign engagement or its relationships with other countries.
- Pro Bono Work:
- Pro bono work might still exist, but it would likely focus on causes approved by the regime, such as supporting state-sponsored initiatives rather than marginalized communities or political dissidents.
- Public interest litigation could be heavily restricted or monitored to prevent challenges to the regime’s authority.
- Political Influence:
- In an authoritarian regime, law firms and attorneys might have closer ties to political power structures, but this would come at the cost of independence. Attorneys who work for the state or regime-connected entities could wield significant influence, but only within the boundaries set by the regime.
- The line between legal practice and political loyalty would likely blur, with attorneys expected to serve as tools of state power rather than impartial advocates.
- Structure and Ownership:
Overall, under an authoritarian regime, law firms would operate in a highly constrained environment where their primary duty might shift from serving clients and upholding the rule of law to advancing the interests of the ruling power. This would fundamentally alter the nature of legal practice and professionalism.
Hypothetical Preference as a Lawyer
If I were an attorney, I would strongly prefer practicing under the current U.S. model for several reasons:
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- Independence: The ability to operate independently and represent diverse clients without fear of political interference is crucial to the integrity of legal practice.
- Ethical Standards: The U.S. system allows attorneys to uphold professional ethics and act as advocates for justice, even when it means challenging authority or representing unpopular causes.
- Rule of Law: Practicing in a system where the rule of law is respected ensures that attorneys can rely on consistent legal principles rather than arbitrary decisions by those in power.
- Pro Bono and Public Service: The U.S. model encourages attorneys to use their skills for the public good, including representing marginalized communities and advancing social justice.
In contrast, practicing under an authoritarian regime would likely involve significant moral and ethical compromises, as attorneys might be forced to serve the interests of the state over those of their clients or society at large.
Final Thoughts
The U.S. legal system is far from perfect, but its emphasis on independence, ethical standards, and the rule of law creates a foundation that allows attorneys to act as advocates for justice. In an authoritarian regime, these principles would likely be subordinated to political control, fundamentally changing the role of law firms and the legal profession.
Let me know if you’d like to dive deeper into any specific aspect!
Me:
No, thank you, DS, you have been very helpful. Thank you for joining me today and I hope to speak with you again soon.
DS:
<<Thought for 2 minutes>>
Alright, so the user is wrapping up our conversation about law firms in authoritarian regimes versus those in the U.S. They started by asking about totalitarian regimes, then specifically wanted to understand how law firms operate under such systems compared to the U.S. model.
I explained that in an authoritarian state, law firms would face significant changes—like compromised independence, restricted practice areas, and ethical conflicts. Then, when they asked my hypothetical preference as a lawyer, I emphasized the importance of independence and ethical standards in the U.S. system.
Now, the user is thanking me and ending the conversation. They seem satisfied with the information provided. It feels like their curiosity was about understanding the contrasts between legal systems, possibly for academic or personal interest. They might be researching authoritarian regimes or comparing legal practices across different political systems.
I should make sure to acknowledge their gratitude warmly and express my willingness to help again in the future. Keeping it positive and open-ended encourages them to reach out if they have more questions down the line.
You’re very welcome! It was a pleasure assisting you and exploring such an important topic. I hope our paths cross again soon, and please don’t hesitate to reach out with any more questions or topics you’d like to discuss. Have a great day and take care!